Well, the "discussion" here went in a direction (however perhaps due to me...) i did not really want. My excuses for the part i probably push it in that direction. I was just bored (also from members from other chesssites) that players take so, "unendless..." much time to do a move... Of course i do understand that, surely when playin' tha higher levels... that some time can be needed to move- or: before ya move. No point in that. But in my opinion: surely for tha higher levels most of the move should be undoubtedly clear. I for my self move fast. When it still seems to be neccesary for me to think about a move... i try to do that in the time from my opponent, when he/she thinks about a move ! In chess ya have to look some moves forward. In my experiënce (worldwide chess) i did not see that (unfortunelately) so very often, that's a pity, regarding to me ! Belinda