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Topic: How to judge such a pawnendgame?
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BWDenmark flag
I was playing a game (on another site) and ended up in this endgame, where it was black to play. To my surprise it is lost for black no matter wether black or white is to move!. Since it was in a "rapid 15' game" it would have been nice if I could have judged the situation quickly, but as for now I am still surprised to know that black is always lost.
How could I have known?

Flip


WulebgrUnited States flag
Count the pawn moves--zugzwang!

BWDenmark flag
Yes, that's what I was counting on when I went in to this endgame. I quickly thought that either I loose because of zugzwang or I win because of it. But that is the case with f.ex. the white e-pawn on e4. Then it is the player to move that wins.
But in this position it is always white that gets black into zugzwang and therefore wins and that's the part I find difficult to see when just looking at the position.

Well, I guess I need to work through some basic pawn-endgame examples before I can see why :-)

becoBrazil flag
Hi BW,

It is a very difficult problem to see (harder in a 15 min game).
IMHO, the white pawn structure with e3 and f3 allow panws g2 and h2 to have both move options (one or two moves), while advanced black e5 limit the moves of g7 and h7, what makes the difference when taking the zugzwang advantage.

My two cents...

Cheers,
Beco. %-)

BWDenmark flag
Hi Beco,

Yes, it must be something like that! Since white is sligthly more flexible it can create some threats or make moves black has to respond to....
Very interesting... :-O
(Today I even looked at 1. ...e4 - in order to counter the flexible pawns - but to no avail)

Thanks Beco!


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