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doran wrote: What is the monatary value of a QueenAlice award? If one cheats then it also has no sentimental value. |
There's no monetary value but if there's no value at all, there's no point having the titles! The value for the cheat is that it fuels his ego and makes him look important.
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| me wrote: I agree with KDP... |
I agree with me...
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richerby - Does your logic apply to ratings? Doesnt a rating of 2400 make one look important? I suppose ratings are necessary. However, I propose we simply ignore the possibility of cheating. If cheaters deter us from a positive feature than they have succeeded in cheating us out of something valuable.
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Cheating: The USCF, FIDE, and tournament directors have been dealing with this issue for years in OTB (over-the-board) tournaments. One computer cheat was able to increase his rating over 2600 FIDE before he was caught in a european tournament. However, cheats HAVE been caught, and it appears from a message I've read on this site that the Sysadmin "will" be looking for cheats. I would think that those who cheat will quickly move up to the top of the ratings, so rated players on the site who play players near their rating will most often not suffer too much as they will rarely play someone who insists on such practices (as their rating will carry them upwards and "out" of close rating range). What we all want is to play a good game and to learn from it. Ultimately even if someone is occasionally cheating us we are still getting what we want -- and the cheater learns nothing, eventually questioned by the Sysadmin and everyone else that posts to a Forum. The cheater also knows that in reality they can not play chess well, which is one reason they use the computer -- they can only wish that they had the integrity and skills (AND FUN!) that most of us are interested in acquiring.
Titles: When some players think of "titles" they only think about GM, IM, or Master titles. Since most players are not in this category (and likely most on this site) I think we should have titles that match the USCF titles so that all players can see their title change as they improve -- which matches the fact that the USCF rating system is used on this site. However, we should monitor those whose ratings are very high ourselves. It does not take long for "strong" chess players to realize who the cheats are by some move that was made -- even if many of their games appear "normal". I have spoken with many strong playes who also find it easy to detect who the cheaters are by the nature of their moves. [You "must" be careful to allow for many games to gauge whether or not a player is cheating or -- simply a strong chess player. You must also consider the possibility that your opponent has simply spent many hours analyzing a position and has come up with a great move (!), which we can learn from.] We should ask other strong chess players to help us with this, and if a consensus of many players is formed then the information should be passed to the Sysadmin.
USCF Life Master and Tournament Director Arthur Braden
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