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I couldn't give a toss for what the cheat thinks about himself. Take a look at Auto Beg 524. It is at the 2nd round stage. Just think how much effort wesleyCXI has put in (in good faith) to get to that stage only to be confronted by a cheat. That's the harm and damage it causes. It is not a laughing matter to be swept under the carpet.
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If the jerks cheat to get there, then would that not indicate they are not as good as their ratings suggest, and they'll get beaten by "real" players when they confront them? It would seem that wesleyCXI would benefit by others' artificially inflated ratings when wesleyCXI beats them. or perhaps I just don't understand what you're saying.
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Yes, I think you've missed the point. Imagine the tournaments each had a monetary prize and there was an admission fee. The cheats' behaviour would be a criminal offence (well it is in England). Oh, well. What does it matter that wesley (and all the other entrants) lost their money and some cheat walked off with the purse - it's only a game?! Of course there is the small compensation of playing a stronger player, but isn't that what challenge games are for! Imagine playing poker with four other people, two of whom were working together. I know casinos have a rule against such cheating - isn't that when they are taken outside and have their hands rearranged. Seriously, let's kick out all the cheats (and I have other names for you to look at). I love the game and have been playing for over 50 years. Don't let a few spoil it.
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It's one thing for a person to create multiple accounts and inflate their ratings for simple ego reasons or cheap thrills. This only destabilized the ratings system in a very minor way. The ratings effect of the many honest players is a heavy correcter.
It is another thing altogether to have a player use multiple accounts to win tournaments easily. Most troubling is when it is an elite player as seems the case with the example that equus has brought up. To see how bad it can be, one need only look at ppeteleco's 39 tournament wins in the last two years using this method. Generally folks may not realize how easy it is to do this. A cheat that has several accounts can overcome even players rated a couple of hundred points ahead, especially at the elite level where draws are more easily accepted.
That is not the most significant advantage though. The real trick used is to wait for the tournament to be nearly full. If the current field of entrants is not overly strong, the cheat quickly enters all accounts needed to fill the tournament to make sure a stronger player does not get in last minute ... chalk up another easy tournament win.
Of course this is easiest to do in Open tournaments where the range of entrants can be quite extreme. I never play Open tourneys partly for that reason but the other tournaments are not safe from this form of cheating.
Not much can be done about it either. Only the most obvious cheats that don't try to cover up their tracks can be detected. With only a little extra effort, no tracks would be left so it is best not to think about it too much. Imagine for example that there was an entry fee for these tournaments. You'd have to be crazy to enter!
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It is another thing altogether to have a player use multiple accounts to win tournaments easily. Most troubling is when it is an elite player as To see how bad it can be, one need only look at ppeteleco's 39 tournament wins in the last two years using this method.
I consider it to be bad form to make an accusation without providing evidence. I respect Blutigeroo so I assume that he has enough evidence to warrant taking a closer look at ppeteleco. There are usernames that write in these forums that I dont respect. I often question if they themselves believe their accusations. I am sure that Blutigeroo would never bear false witness. However, I think he has set a poor example.
the cheat quickly enters all accounts needed to fill the tournament to make sure a stronger player does not get in last minute....Of course this is easiest to do in Open tournaments where the range of entrants can be quite extreme.
It would also be easy to do in Elite tournaments. If a cheat has 6 usernames he could take up all six spots as soon as the tournament starts to accept registration. When he fills the first tournament registration for next tournament would begin. He could repeat the process. In this manner he could win 10 elite tournaments in 2 hours. Since only the cheat is entered in these tournaments it almost seems like a victimless crime. Ofcourse we would know that these 6 usernames are all the same person and delete copies of him when other players are in the tournament.
Not much can be done about it either. I am not sure this is true. A skilled statistician could could predict how often the same 2 players enter the same tournament. Furthemore he can calculate, for all frequencies of 2 players entered in the same event. The likelihood that they just happened to enter those events at the same time. If CheatOne entered if and only if CheatTwo entered 10 different events the odds are astronomically high that they are either the same person or the communicate with each other and enter the same same event's on purpose. If CheatOne and CheatTwo are working together it would be evident by when they try to exploit there advantage.
Another way to identify one person two usernames is to compare their playing style. I wonder if a program exists to do this.
Equus told us all several usernames that he alleges are the same person. That makes it easier to substantiate or refute his claim.
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