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Topic: Bobby Fisher dead at 64...
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NoneBelgium flag
Very well said kloosterveen...

kloosterveenNetherlands flag
"that man which try to reach the power, most part are crazy"

Or the way around. Thats why I earlier on picked as example from the mentioned persons, listed by luonga the leadsinger/composer of the band Nirvana, Kurt Cobain. To point out the difference between dangerous forms of schizophrenia and all kinds of psychotic ilnesses , versus harmless mentally disturbed brains out of pressure. Kurt Cobain could not handle the succes he had, and searched for help into hard-drugs, which finally resulted, as in many of this cases, into suicide. What else can you say then very, very sad.
Both are mental ilnesses, but very different.
Streaking on Kings Cross at primetime in good old London Town is just crazy, or just fun, whatever you wish! But it ain`t a mental disease.

Well, I am going to play chess again... discussions like this are never been won.

to quote Kurt Cobain

"come as you are.....as a friend.....)
;-)

TwinigoCanada flag
RIP Fischer.

In tribute for one of the greatest chess mind, the most beautiful game he's ever played IMO. He's Black aginst Spassky in Reykjavik 1972:


FlipFirst Move   Previous MoveNext Move   Previous Move (with variations)Next Move (with variations)   Last Move

1. e4 Nf6 2. e5 Nd5 3. d4 d6 4. Nf3 g6 5. Bc4 Nb6 6. Bb3 Bg7
7. Nbd2 O-O 8. h3 a5 9. a4 dxe5 10. dxe5 Na6 11. O-O Nc5
12. Qe2 Qe8 13. Ne4 Nbxa4 14. Bxa4 Nxa4 15. Re1 Nb6 16. Bd2 a4
17. Bg5 h6 18. Bh4 Bf5 19. g4 Be6 20. Nd4 Bc4 21. Qd2 Qd7
22. Rad1 Rfe8 23. f4 Bd5 24. Nc5 Qc8 25. Qc3 e6 26. Kh2 Nd7
27. Nd3 c5 28. Nb5 Qc6 29. Nd6 Qxd6 30. exd6 Bxc3 31. bxc3 f6
32. g5 hxg5 33. fxg5 f5 34. Bg3 Kf7 35. Ne5+ Nxe5 36. Bxe5 b5
37. Rf1 Rh8 38. Bf6 a3 39. Rf4 a2 40. c4 Bxc4 41. d7 Bd5
42. Kg3 Ra3+ 43. c3 Rha8 44. Rh4 e5 45. Rh7+ Ke6 46. Re7+ Kd6
47. Rxe5 Rxc3+ 48. Kf2 Rc2+ 49. Ke1 Kxd7 50. Rexd5+ Kc6
51. Rd6+ Kb7 52. Rd7+ Ka6 53. R7d2 Rxd2 54. Kxd2 b4 55. h4 Kb5
56. h5 c4 57. Ra1 gxh5 58. g6 h4 59. g7 h3 60. Be7 Rg8 61. Bf8
h2 62. Kc2 Kc6 63. Rd1 b3+ 64. Kc3 h1=Q 65. Rxh1 Kd5 66. Kb2
f4 67. Rd1+ Ke4 68. Rc1 Kd3 69. Rd1+ Ke2 70. Rc1 f3 71. Bc5
Rxg7 72. Rxc4 Rd7 73. Re4+ Kf1 74. Bd4 f2 0-1


luongo_00001Canada flag

Robert J. Fischer, whose mother and probable biological father were both Jewish, made hostile comments towards the Jews already, at least the early 1960`s. What age did he have? Was he a alcoholic already at 16/20 years? I do not believe.

i do not beleave what he was saying he saying was was right but you shoulded use hes hatred againsed the jews as a attack agansed his charecter.. he was born in 1943 during the secound world war and the holacost when antisemetism was not just at a high in germany but the world- the UN had to make the contry of Isreal just because no other place wanted to take in all the jewish refergies any beliefs that he had were believed not just by him but most of the world.. and we dont go saying that most the world was insane at this time but just ingerant... like even today in the middle east it countrys like Iran that have isalamic law if you are found to be a homosexuail you get sent to presion also they have strick laws againsed woman and jews but we sholdnt beleave they are all insane its their religion, their beliefs, they are unfair but us in the non-islamic world also had unfair laws againsed other minjourites..


richerbyUnited Kingdom flag

luongo_00001 wrote: i do not beleave what he was saying he saying was was right but you shoulded use hes hatred againsed the jews as a attack agansed his charecter

If one could argue that his anti-Semitism was typical of his time and culture then one could, perhaps overlook it. But it wasn't: there wasn't a culture of rabid anti-Semitism in the USA while he was growing up and there isn't now. Through most of the western world, the holocaust is a nearly universally accepted as a fact and reviled. At the time of Fischer's birth, in 1943, many people refused to believe in the holocaust because they didn't think it physically possible or maybe just thought it was Allied government propaganda to dehumanize the Germans; since then the evidence has become overwhelming.

It seems to me (and many others) that Fischer was quite severely mentally ill. I am not a psychiatrist and, if I were, I wouldn't be making diagnoses of people I've not met but it did look an awful lot like Fischer was suffering from paranoid schizophrenia. As such, I wouldn't hold an awful lot against him.

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